David Greene November 04, 2013 Updated January 09, 2016 20131104_me_17.mp3?orgId=1&topicId=1006&d=37&story=242972380&ft=nprml&f=242972380 Listen • 0:38 20131104_me_17.mp3?orgId=1&topicId=1006&d=37&story=242972380&ft=nprml&f=242972380 Copyright 2016 NPR. To see more, visit http://www.npr.org/. David Greene
